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  Welcome to the CENTEL Pool League home page. CENTEL is the Central Texas pool League based in Bryan/College Station, Texas. CENTEL's goal is to make pool a fun and rewarding pastime for the entire family.

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The Spring season registration is now closed.

 

League play has now begun. Let the Balls Roll!

Team Captains please note that "The Entrepreneurs" have dropped out, so all of those matches are now Bye weeks for their opponents.

 

 

 

Ventura III

 

 

 

Need a Pool Table???

Check out the classifieds page for Pool tables for sale.

 

 

Please note BCA dues for the 2009-2010 have increased to $15 this season. This is the first increase in 12 years so that isn't so bad.

 

Congrats goes out to Adam Maloney for winning 1st Place in the ACUI Collegiate 9-ball National Championships in Illinois. Adam was representing Texas A&M at the ACUI  Championships on July 21-23, 2009 in IIlinois.  He knocked off the 3 time winner for the top spot. Way to go.

Thanks,

Clifford

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                                                   Spring 2010

Meetings, Deadlines & General Information

Dec 15, 2009: Email registration begins at cgdorn@gte.net        

 

Jan 11: Registration closed

 

Jan 19: Spring Season Play begins, meet @ Fast Eddies @ 7:00pm

 

Apr 20: End Of Fall League

 

Apr 27: Awards & Payout   @ Fast Eddies @ 8pm.

 

               

 

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Scotch Doubles:

  • Each Centel Team can have 1 Doubles Team
  • Maximum 16 teams
  • Scotch Doubles Format
  • Race to 2, double elimination
  • $20/team entry fee.  Added Money!
  • If a Centel Team does not have an entry, then the remaining spots can be filled at large.
  • Only Centel Players can play
  • Mixed teams not allowed. Must be from same centel team.

 Singles:

  • Each Centel Team can have 2 singles
  • Scotch doubles players cannot play singles
  • 32 Player maximum field
  • If there are not 32 players registered @ 2 per team, then registration will be open to fill the field.
  • $10/person entry fee
  • Only Centel Players can play

Check out the new Brazos Valley Pool Forum.

There is now a B/CS Pool forum thanks to Tim Homeyer. Check it out at http://brazosvalleyforum.omgforum.net

 

 

 

 

Clifford Dorn, CENTEL Owner

Contact Info: Dr. Clifford Dorn, cgdorn@gte.net         

(979)260-7852 off.    (979)820-1252 cell.

 

Rule reminder: It is not a foul to touch a ball with the bridge unless it results in that ball touching another ball or if another ball passes through the spot where the moved ball was. If that is the case, then it is a ball in hand foul and there is no restoration of the ball's position. If it is not a foul, then the opponent has the option of repositioning the moved ball or leaving it where it sits. The offending player cannot grab the moved ball without asking. If the player grabs the moved ball and puts it back, then that is a foul.

All Players - Please take note of the new rules.

New CENTEL Rules effective immediately.

  • As of May 27, 2008 We are using the BCA rule for calling shots. Obvious shots do not have to be called!
  • Score Sheets and fees can be turned in using the included envelopes @ Fast Eddies, POETS or Yesterday's using the CENTEL drop boxes.
  • Score Sheets and Fees must be dropped off by Wednesday @ 6pm following regular Tuesday Night Matches or on Friday @ 6pm for Thursday night matches. Scores & fees not turned in by then will be considered forfeits by the home team.  We are giving you an extra day so you don't have to rush after your match.
  • All New players must be listed with First & Last Names. BCA cards cannot be given to players without a last name listed.
  • CENTEL must have a current address on all BCA members. Remember that BCA is a national organization that keeps track of your stats so you can play in Statewide & National tournaments.

SIGNIFICANT BCA RULE CHANGES

 

In September, 2007 the BCA Pool League published “The Official Rules of the BCA Pool League.  The 2008 BCA National 8-Ball Championships will be governed by these rules.  Following are some significant changes that the players will need to be aware of.

 

1.3    USE OF EQUIPMENT

a.       You may use only your cue stick , held in your hand or not, to align a shot

 

1.8 No Practice Allowed During Match

1. It is a foul if you practice at any time during your match, including time-outs and periods of suspended play. "Practice" is defined as any stroke or shot that is not a part of your match, taken on any table at the event venue. In team play, this rule applies to all members of the team roster, whether or not they are playing at the time and whether or not they are listed on the score sheet of the match in progress. (Centel Rule: This only applies to the 5 players per team  on the scoresheet)

 

1.14    RACKING PROCEDURES

1.      All BCAPL events require you to rack for yourself when you are breaking

 

1.17   CALLING A SHOT

       Regardless of whether or not your opponent asks, and regardless of how simple or obvious a shot may appear to you,  bank shots and combination shots are defined as not being obvious and must always be called.  If you do not call a bank shot or a combination shot and you pocket any ball on that shot, your inning ends and the incoming player must accept the table in position.

       You do not have to call obvious straight in shots.

 

1.33    CUE BALL FOULS ONLY

7.      If you accidentally move more than one object ball or if the accidentally moved ball contacts any other ball, it is a foul.  Your opponent receives ball in hand and has no restoration option.

 

1.34    JUMP AND MASSE’ SHOTS

2.      It is a foul if you miscue on any jump shot or masse’ shot.

 

2.3    8-BALL BREAK REQUIREMENTS

1.      You must use an open break. An open break is defined as:  A break in which a forceful stroke is used in an attempt to significantly scatter the balls around the table in a random pattern.

 

2.5    ESTABLISHING GROUPS

  3.  Once they are established, groups can never change for the remainder of that game.  If a player shoots the wrong group and no foul is called before the next shot, and the player continues to shoot at that group, or if at any time during the game it is discovered by any player or official that the players are shooting the wrong groups and a foul was not called in a timely manner, the game will be replayed with the player who broke the game breaking again.

 

Captain's.... are you looking for additional team members?

Players.... are you looking for a team to play on?

Contact Clifford Dorn cgdorn@gte.net  and he will get you together. Clifford has a few players looking to join a team. If you want to play on the league, Clifford can put your name on a list. Join now and get in on the fun!

 

 

All teams must have a working email address & telephone.

Summer began our new fiscal year and all BCA dues will be payable ($15.00 per player per fiscal year). All players must pay their BCA dues when they play their first match. Any team submitting a scoresheet with a player not current with BCA will forfeit that player's games.

All captains should have a copy of the BCA rules available for each match and a copy of the supplement given out with your registration packet. If you do not have one of the nice BCA books, just go to the BCA link and print a copy. The supplemental rules are listed below and can be printed out. All rules disputes must be settled during the match before play continues. Players should not get upset if a foul is called. Not knowing it was a foul is not a reason to overlook it. The rules are in place to make the game fair for everyone. Let's have fun out there!

Check out the upcoming events page including the playbca.com tourney!

 

 

New Players with no averages, shoot-for-average the first time they play, with their average being their actual score conversion at the end of their first match. We no longer use a multiplier for first game average, "what you shoot is what you get!"  Future averages will be computed with this starting score & may change week-to-week.

Be sure to check your averages before each match!

 

Supplemental Rules of the CENTEL 8-Ball League

 

Coaching During a Match

      A player at the table may have one “coach” call during each game. The player or any other member of his/her team may call “coach” as long as it is that player’s turn at the table. Coaching is permitted for any purpose of strategy or selection of shots, or for any other reason related to the game in progress. Once a “coach” has been called, any member of the player’s team may participate in the session. A “coach” call is intended to be used sparingly, if at all, and the total time used for a “coach” call should not exceed two minutes ( approximate). Only the cue ball may be touched during a “coach” session, and then only if the player being coached has ball-in-hand following a foul. Only the player being coached may touch the cue ball during a “coach” session. Any other player touching a ball during a “coach” call is guilty of a foul, resulting in ball-in-hand for the opponent. No pool cues, bridges or other objects may be placed on the table (including the rails) during a “coach” call.

Coaching a player using any form of communication without calling a “coach” is illegal and will result in a foul against the player being coached.

 

Question Of  A Foul

Whenever there is a potential foul situation, that question may be raised by any member of either team participating in the match. This is not a “coach” call. It is a question of the legality of a shot or situation at the table. A player committing a foul should always verbally indicate such to his/her opponent at the time the foul was committed. If there is a question regarding whether or not a move was a foul, the player committing the situation should ask if it was a foul, i.e., “Was that a good hit?” or “Did it hit a rail?” This is good sportsmanship. If an offending player fails to call attention to his/her foul, any member of either team witnessing the foul may call it. It then becomes a question of whether or not a foul actually occurred. When there is no real evidence of a foul, it is supposed that none occurred and the game continues. This is why it is important to ask for a referee before a questionable shot is attempted. A third party can observe and make a ruling. If such a ruling is called for, whatever ruling is made will be honored.

 

Question Of A Rule

      Whenever a question should arise concerning a rule, any member of either team involved in the match may call such a question. This does not count as a “coach” call against the player at the table. It is simply an inquiry regarding a rule, unless the question affects choice of shot selection for the player at the table, then the inquiry will be deemed a “coach” call. Rule questions should relate to the game in progress. For instance, a player may ask, “Is the ball-in-hand anywhere on the table, or is it behind the head string?” Or a players might ask, “Is it legal for me to first contact the 8-ball before pocketing one of my balls?” Any general rule question that is pertinent to the game in progress can be raised by any team member from either team involved in the match.

 

CENTEL: Q & A

 

Below are commonly asked questions & answers regarding rules/procedures used by CENTEL Pool League.  Most relate to Billiard Congress of America (BCA) rules.  Some are unique to CENTEL, intended to enhance fun and to allow a more even playing field for participants.  Where questions arise that are not addressed herein, see BCA rules.

 

Who breaks first in a match?  ANSWER: The score sheet determines who breaks.  Look at the score box beside each name for the round in which you are playing.  There is a small letter “B” in the score box when it is that person’s break in that round of play.  In a match, all HOME team players break in the first round, VISITOR players break in the second round, etc.  In the final round (5th round of play), three HOME team and two VISITOR team players will break.  These are noted in the score boxes for that round.

 

Who racks the balls for the break? ANSWER: According to the new BCA guidelines, the person breaking the balls should rack their own break. This will eliminate problems with calling a bad rack since you are racking for your own break. If the rack is bad it is your own fault.

 

In what order are the balls racked for the break?  ANSWER: The 8-ball is placed in the middle of the rack in the three-across-row of balls (third row from top of rack); all other balls are randomly placed in the rack except for the final row (five-across) where there must be a “solid” ball on one corner and a “stripe” ball on the opposite corner.  The rack must be “tight” with all balls touching all adjacent balls if possible, and the head ball is to be positioned on the foot-spot if one is provided, otherwise as close as possible to the normal position of the foot-spot.

 

What happens if a player mis-cues on the break?  ANSWER: Nothing, if he pockets a numbered ball (except for the 8-ball), or if as many as 4 numbered balls hit a rail.  If no numbered ball is pocketed, or if fewer than 4 numbered balls hit rails it is a foul and the opponent has the option to shoot from the current lie, to re-rack the balls and break, or to re-rack and ask the offending player to break again. 

 

What happens if the cue ball flies off the table during the break?  ANSWER: It is a foul any time any ball is knocked off the table.  If no other fouls occurred, opponent has cue ball-in-hand BEHIND THE HEAD STRING (only after the opening break), and the table is OPEN.  With cue ball-in-hand behind the head string the cue ball must first travel beyond the head string before contacting an object ball for a legal shot to occur.

 

What happens if the 8-ball is knocked off the table?  ANSWER: It is a loss, unless it is knocked from the table during the break.  In that instance it is treated as described below.

 

What happens if an object ball is pocketed on the break?  ANSWER: Nothing, unless it was the 8-ball that was pocketed, in which case the breaker may call for a re-rack and again break the balls, or may call for the 8-ball to be placed on the foot spot and then continue his turn, and the table is OPEN.  If a numbered ball other than the 8-ball falls in a pocket on the break, the breaker continues his turn and the table is OPEN.  Any balls pocketed stay in the pocket, except for the 8-ball exception cited earlier.

 

When is the table open and when is it closed?  ANSWER: Table is open until an object ball is called and pocketed on a legal shot.  The player pocketing the object on the legal shot has that series of balls, either solids or stripes for the remainder of the game.  His opponent has the opposite series.

 

If a player breaks and pockets the 2, 6 and 11 balls, is the table still open?  ANSWER: If no other foul occurred it is a legal break and the player continues their turn and the table remains OPEN.  Players may shoot either series of balls while the table is open.

 

If the table is open and the cue ball first hits a solid object ball, then pockets a stripe object ball, does that count?  ANSWER: It counts as long as no foul occurred and as long as the pocketed ball was called in that pocket.  The player continues; the table is closed; the player at the table has the striped object balls.

 

I’ve heard the term, “legal shot.”  What is a legal shot?  ANSWER: A legal shot occurs when the cue ball contacts an object ball of the proper series, and AFTER that contact ANY ball (object ball or cue ball) hits a rail or any object ball falls in a pocket.  A legal shot simply means that there was no foul.  (NOTE: Pocketing the 8-ball out of turn is a loss of game regardless of whether or not it was pocketed on a legal shot.)

 

Can the 8-ball be used in a combination shot?  ANSWER: Yes, as long as the first ball contacted is one of the shooting player’s own object balls, and as long as no foul occurs. 

 

If a player is shooting the 8-ball and scratches the cue ball, do they lose?  ANSWER: If the 8-ball is still on the table the game is still in progress.  Pocketing the cue ball results in loss of turn and ball-in-hand for the opponent.  Any time the 8-ball is pocketed or is knocked from the table (except on the break) the game is over.  If the 8-ball is removed from the table on a foul shot the game is over and the person committing the foul loses.

 

If a player moves another player’s object ball with his arm, is that a foul?  ANSWER: As long as balls were not in motion at the time the ball was moved and only one ball is moved, it is not a table foul but a HAND FOUL.  A hand foul occurs when a stationary object ball is accidentally moved by the player at the table.  This can be caused by any part of the player’s body, clothing, cue, chalk or mechanical bridge.  A player committing a hand foul must inform their opponent who then has the option of moving the ball back to it's original place on the table, or allowing it to remain where it is.  Player at the table continues.  Moving the cue ball is a table foul and results in loss of turn and ball-in-hand for the opponent. Moving more than one ball or moving a ball into another ball is a table foul and results in loss of turn with ball-in-hand for the opponent and balls are not repositioned. NOTE: If the opponent chooses to replace balls to their perceived previous positions following a hand foul, that position shall be unquestioned.

 

If I commit a foul, what do I do?  ANSWER: You immediately notify your opponent that you fouled.  Do NOT pick up the cue ball and hand it to your opponent.  If you think you may have fouled but are unsure, ask your opponent if they saw a foul and accept their answer.  If your opponent asks, you should answer honestly by saying “It was a legal shot;” or “I don’t know, what do you think?”  If there is going to be a close hit when your opponent calls a shot, call for a third party to observe and make a ruling.  If no third party is used, the decision of the legality rests with the player who made the shot.

 

What if my cue stick accidentally hits a ball that is rolling on the table?  ANSWER: It is a foul any time you touch a moving ball with any part of your body or any equipment, even if touching the ball was an accident.  It results in loss of turn and cue ball-in-hand for the opponent.  

 

What if I see a player from the opposing team commit a foul but my teammate in the game doesn’t see the foul?  ANSWER: You or any other member of your team may call a foul without using a “coach” call.   Your player, once informed, may ask the opponent if the previous shot was legal, but if your player didn’t see the shot then they cannot question the answer they are given.  Only players in the same game may discuss the legality of a shot (unless a third party is called to observe). This makes a good case for keeping your mind on the game.

 

What is a “push shot” and is it legal? ANSWER: No, a push-shot is not legal.  It is a foul and results in loss of turn and cue ball-in-hand for the opponent.  Any time the cue ball is less than one-inch (a standard chalk’s width) from an object ball that is being played as a called ball, first ball in a combination or a legal hit ball, after contacting the object ball the cue ball may not follow in the direct path of the object ball for more than half a ball width.  To do so is a considered a “push” and is a foul.  Without a third party to rule, the shot must be attempted at a 45 or greater degree of angle to ensure that the cue ball does not follow the object ball’s path.  If the cue ball and intended use object ball are touching (frozen), and both players agree they are touching, then the intended object ball may be played using the cue ball in a straight-on shot but without pushing the cue ball or double-hitting the cue ball, either of which is a foul.

 

When can I call for a coach?  ANSWER: A coach may be called by the player currently at the table or by any of their team members who are playing in the same match, and it may be called at any time that balls are not in motion, and for any reason.  Player at the table may refuse a coach call and continue without comment, or may accept a coach call made by another team member.  During a coach call, any or all team members of the player currently at the table may participate in the discussion, however the table belongs ONLY to the player currently at the table.  No balls may be touched by any other player, nor can any other player place any object on any part of the table during a coach call.  A coach call is for the purpose of discussing strategy, ball placement (if ball-in-hand), shot selection, etc.  A coach call should be limited to no more than 2 minutes of discussion.  Each player may use one coach call per game.

 

If I have ball-in-hand after a foul, can I place the cue ball anywhere I want it?  ANSWER: Yes, as long as that spot is not otherwise occupied by another ball.  You may use your hands or cue to position the cue ball while you have ball-in-hand.  Moving an object ball while positioning the cue ball with ball-in-hand is a hand foul (see above).  Exception: In the event of a foul on the break, cue ball-in-hand is behind the head string.

 

If an object ball is frozen on the rail and I attempt a safety, moving that ball from the rail but neither the cue ball or another ball touches a rail following contact, and no ball is pocketed, is this a legal shot?  ANSWER: No, an object ball frozen on a rail can only be used for a legal shot if it is called and pocketed or if it strikes another rail, otherwise the cue ball or another object ball must hit a rail or be pocketed after contact in order for the shot to be legal. 

 

What if my opponent hangs a ball in a pocket, right on the edge, then bumps the table and the ball drops into the pocket - is that legal?  ANSWER: Was the table intentionally bumped with the intent of causing the ball to drop in the pocket?  If so, it was a foul, and you now have cue ball-in-hand.  If the bump was inadvertent there is no table foul, only a hand foul.  In either case the ball that dropped is replaced as close as possible to its prior position on the table and play continues. 

 

Am I allowed to climb up on the table to attempt a shot if I don’t move any of the balls?

ANSWER: Yes, as long as one foot remains in contact with the floor.

 

Can I take balls out of a full pocket and put them in another pocket?  ANSWER: Yes if it is your turn, but you cannot place any previously pocketed balls back on the table, nor can you move any ball with a previously pocketed ball.  To do so is a foul and results in loss of turn and ball-in-hand for the opponent.  You do NOT have to ask permission to move balls, but it is a courtesy, so inform your opponent of your intention.

 

Must I call a simple bank shot when that’s the only shot I have?  ANSWER: Yes, every bank and combination shot must be called, even if it appears to be obvious.  All shots should be called, except those that are mostly straight into a pocket.  Calling a shot involves declaring the object ball & pocket into which the shot will be attempted; no need to describe the shot, only call the pocket.  If your opponent questions a shot that was not called and not obvious, it is a foul.

 

The match was underway when I arrived - is there a penalty for being late?   ANSWER: 8:00 p.m. is the starting time for matches with 15 minutes grace, meaning all matches will start no later than 8:15 p.m. After 8:15 pm a player arriving after his first game is called may not play in that round or any subsequent round if he is not present when his turn is called.  Late players may begin play in the round in which they arrive, provided their game has not already been called, and may continue play in all remaining rounds.  Missed rounds result in a ZERO score.  Additionally, it is each player’s responsibility to be available when their next game is called.  Players may take breaks but should not wander off and cause delays when games are called.

1.5 Starting time of Match (BCA Ruling) The start time for your match is the scheduled time or the time the match is announced, whichever is later. If you are not present at the table with your equipment within 15 minutes after the start time, you lose the match by forfeit.

 

If a team only has 4 players how is scoring & handicaps handled?  ANSWER: A missing player is listed as a player forfeit and that player is scored as a zero for each round with the opponent receiving a 10. The forfeit player does not have a handicap so the team's handicap is based on 4 players. The opposing team takes their highest handicap and drops it and recalculates their team handicap using their 4 lowest players.

 

What if a team lists an incorrect average for a player? ANSWER: Team captain's are responsible for checking the website and listing the current averages for their players. When entered into the BCA Pool computer program, all averages are automatically calculated. When an average is listed incorrectly, the computer will "flag" it. If a team lists a player using a higher average, it will stand and the scorecard will be accepted as-is. If a team lists a player using a lower average, then the average will be adjusted to the player's true average resulting in a different team handicap and may change the outcome of the matches. Incorrect listing of averages will only hurt the offending team and cannot give them an edge.

                                                                             

GENERAL PROCEDURES

 

TEAMS:

            Teams consist of up to 10 players, 5 of which play in a match.

            Teams must designate a home billiard parlor where they host HOME matches.

            Teams must choose an appropriate team name (no vulgar or suggestive names).

            Team members must pay BCA dues prior to playing any league match.

            Teams may add or drop members at any time during the season.

            Teams must have a designated captain and co-captain, phone & e-mail address.

            Teams must be represented at any scheduled or called captain's meeting.

 

CAPTAINS:

Team captains are responsible for collecting and submitting score sheets and all league fees/BCA dues for each match where they are the HOME team. 

Team captains are responsible for the conduct of their members and may remove team members for any justifiable cause.

Team captains are responsible for enforcement of rules of play and rules & procedures of CENTEL.

Team captains are responsible for the appropriate distribution of prizes and cash  pay-outs to their team members in accordance with league directions.

 

PLAYERS:

Players in CENTEL leagues must adhere to all rules/procedures and demonstrate good sportsmanship and conduct while a league participant.

Players may move from one team to another at any time as long as they have not played in a league match during the current season.

Players who quit or who are removed from a team with just cause forfeit all fees paid to date and/or owed to them by the league.

Players may not gamble or wager on any league activity, nor may they engage in any scheme to win or lose, nor may they intentionally weight their scores.

 

FEES/DUES:

CENTEL collects fees of $30.00/ team per match.  Teams are responsible for the entire amount even if fewer than five players participate in a match.

BCA collects annual dues of $15.00/person (June 1 - May 31), for each league it sanctions, payable at the first match.

Fees, dues and SCORE CARDS for each match must be submitted to CENTEL  according to notice provided to team captains during each season.

 

 

HOME TEAMS: (Team hosting a match at its “home” billiard parlor is HOME team.)

            Home team is responsible for securing tables for use in the match.

            Home team is responsible for providing score sheets and keeping score.

Home team is responsible for collecting and submitting all match fees/dues and score cards according to stated CENTEL procedures at the time.

 

DISPUTES:

            All table disputes should be resolved before the game ends. Disputes of

            rules can be answered by calling Clifford Dorn at (979)820-1252 or Mike

            Rowden (979)204-4118  for clarification of a rule. If a dispute is not resolved

            at the table, either captain may initiate a written protest by contacting the

            league office at cgdorn@gte.net . Such disputes will be discussed by the

            league executive committee and a written response will be sent to both

            captains. Captains should refer to the BCA and CENTEL rules which are

            included in the captain's packet.

 

PENALTIES:

Failure to comply with CENTEL and BCA rules as applicable will result in a forfeit for any team or individual involved.  Some penalties may involve forfeit of any and all fees paid to-date at the discretion of CENTEL management.

 

EXCEPTIONS:

Exceptions to rules/procedure described herein may be made with the approval of all participants, except for gambling, wagering or other inappropriate conduct.

 

These rules/regulations/procedures are in addition to any and all other such information provided to league participants by CENTEL and/or BCA.

 

 

 

 

 

 

   
 

Copyright © 2007 CenTel Pool, All Rights Reserved.

CENTEL Office: 7750 Raymond Stotzer Pkwy, College Station, TX 77845

Dr. Clifford Dorn, office (979)260-7852 or cell (979)820-1252